The youth are the future of South Africa, so why not give them a space in the media? A brand new 5FM podcast is doing just that! Which is why Saads Abrahams from media update spoke to the host, Jodell Tantij, who is handing the mic to the future with Kidversations.
In a media landscape often dominated by adult perspectives, Kidversations flips the script — literally. Hosted by 5FM's Jodell Tantij, this powerful monthly podcast puts the mic in the hands of South Africa's children, allowing them to share their stories in their own words.
As part of Youth Month, we spoke to Tantij about what it takes to build a safe, empowering space for kids in media, how Kidversations is reshaping traditional storytelling and the importance of listening — really listening — to young voices.
Her answers are a masterclass in empathy, energy and authenticity, proving that when kids lead the conversation, we all learn something new.
How do you go about selecting the children and topics featured on each episode?
5FM always [has its] "finger on the social pulse," so I find most of my guests through social media. There's always a post or video I come across that either inspires me, makes me laugh or moves me in some way.
Based on that, I normally reach out to them to do an interview. The topics are created when I do my research. So I'll see or read something and create questions from my research.
What kind of preparation or research goes into each interview to ensure the kids feel safe, heard and empowered?
Kids are our stars, so we do everything in our power to make sure they are treated with care and respect, but also that they feel that spark that makes 5FM's chats so beautifully different.
In terms of preparation and research, I think hanging out with my guests before the interview helps me better understand the kind of person they are. Also, chatting to their parents or guardians beforehand helps because they know their children the best, so having that info is good.
I also spend so much time doing my research, and I find that this helps too. In terms of ensuring the kids feel safe, heard and empowered, I treat each kid like a friend. I meet them where they are emotionally and mentally.
I talk to them like they are a close friend and not like they are below me. Making sure there are no power dynamics between us creates a safe space for them to open up and be completely their fun, quirky and often crazy selves, which is crucial.
What are some of the challenges of interviewing children, and how do you navigate those moments sensitively?
Kids are unpredictable because they do not hold back. I never know which way an interview will go!
That's where the challenge is, but also where the fun is! In comparison to some adults I have interviewed, they tend to think their answers through a bit more, they are very cautious about what they say, and many of them have had media training or hold back because they are worried about how they may look based on what they say.
Kids are more carefree. They say what's on their mind. I have had conversations with kids where they tell me off, and it is the funniest and purest thing ever. Fortunately, I've never had a moment where I had to stop an interview.
I just go with their flow, if they want the interview to end, I'll end it. If they start crying, I will comfort them, if they have to throw a tantrum, I will be there for them. I will respond the same way I would if it was my close friend needing comfort, a timeout or just a reassuring smile.
In your experience, what do kids often bring to the table that adults might overlook in storytelling?
Perspective. We all can experience the same thing, but we will always experience it differently. It's always heartwarming and refreshing to see life through a kid's eyes. I think their perspective on things is often more amusing and sometimes even deeper than adults.
Why is it important for young voices to be included in the South African media landscape?
Children's experiences and lives are often overlooked because "life is meant to be easy as a kid," "kids don't get this whole life thing; they need to get older before they can understand what adults are going through". I disagree.
The foundations of a person are built on their childhood, so perspectives from childhood often teach us lessons that adult view[points] can't. I think that hearing kids think out loud teaches us so much about people and life — we can learn a thing or two from them. They really are so smart and insightful!
How do you think podcasts like Kidversations can help reshape how media engages with youth?
I think it will show just how knowledgeable kids are. It will also show people that kids have a lot of depth to them. A lot of people don't realise this. I hope that this podcast allows people to lend their ears to the kids, but also listen to them intently and attentively. [The] media doesn't do that. I don't think most kids have a space to voice their opinions, feelings and needs, so this is a big part of what we've created.
Do you believe there's a gap in content made for children versus content made with children — and how does Kidversations address this?
Definitely, I think there are fewer content creators making content that appeals to both adults and kids in one go, where families can sit together to watch. With Kidversations, families have a podcast to watch or listen to together.
How do you tailor your interviewing style when speaking to younger guests compared to adults?
The best way to explain it: If it is an eight-year-old I am interviewing, I almost become an eight-year-old myself.
It is an energy thing — I reciprocate the energy of my guest, and that brings out some amazing and colourful gems in them!
What are some key podcasting skills you've had to develop or refine through Kidversations?
Being a better listener and being more present. As the host, especially with adults, you control the ship. So, while listening attentively, I also need to think of my next question before a guest has finished answering a question.
I am wondering about time, if the interview is going well, etc. There is a lot going through my mind. So, with my younger guests, I am encouraged to stay present and just let the conversation progress naturally without trying to think too much.
What advice would you give to media professionals who want to create content that genuinely represents young people?
I think finding a thing you are passionate about and a solid platform that shares that passion, like 5FM does with me, helps a lot. I have always been passionate about kids. I completed my Honours in teaching, and there's a genuine love there. Then finding ways to create content centred around what you love is crucial. But with all of this, it is vital to remain authentic.
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